Pip light touch forum. I'm assuming it will be a light touch review.
Pip light touch forum My first instinct when reading Jul 19, 2023 · Replied by BIS on topic PIP AR2 light touch review Hi Mrs Doyle I'm not sure what you're asking. UK to help you get ready. Oct 15, 2017 · With this mod, you can set the range, brightness, color and activation timing of your pipboy light ingame. I have not Mar 17, 2023 · Can you be awarded a “ light touch review “ for standard PIP care & mobility ? Jan 27, 2024 · Hi is the PIP Light touch review for people who have a continuous award of pip for ten years. Existing claimants awaiting a review will have I had a light touch review last November and mobility was raised from standard to enhanced making both my awards enhanced. In decision makers reasoning they say - all awards have to be reviewed and as you condition is unlikely to change I have selected the maximum possible review period. Remember, whatever the form he is being assessed against the same criteria as before. At the moment I am doing my renewal for my pip enhanced/enhanced and I've been told over the light touch review I'm not quite sure if you have to ask for this or if it will be automatic so I'll tell you a little bit about myself I suffer with fibromyalgia DDD and I also have mental health problems I was told in 2018 that my pip was to stop it took Jul 17, 2019 · Hi everyone, I have been a state pensioner for almost 10 years. Sep 16, 2024 · Hi, Was awarded PIP in 2014 and it said it was to be looked at again some time after mid December 2024. I'm assuming it will be a light touch review. ly/LifestyleStarFull breakdown of new PIP l Mar 18, 2023 · Good day to you all, Just looking at my PIP paperwork and filing the uprate letter to the huge bundle and noticed my review date etc. Gary Jan 30, 2025 · The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) is in the process of rolling out new "light touch" reviews, contacting Personal Independence Payment (PIP) recipients with a form comprising 16 questions I returned my PIP light touch forms in the first week of August. Because of his age, it will be a light-touch review. They will either send you a letter confirming that his PIP is continuing or they will send you a light touch review form which asks you to confirm if his needs are the same or have deteriorated. According to PIP light touch review info. Mar 29, 2025 · I’m just looking for advice about this light touch review, have enhanced for both. You can see the sorts of questions you will be asked if your look at Sep 19, 2025 · The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has recently confirmed that reviews for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) awards are currently taking an average of 38 weeks to complete. Jan 31, 2025 · A ‘light touch’ This new approach, dubbed a ‘light touch’ review, means that in most cases, you’ll only need to fill out a review form instead of facing the usual assessment. According to Listen to Post Are Light Touch Reviews Really Light? Know Your Rights, Protect Your Benefits, and Demand Fairness The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) introduced light touch PIP reviews as a supposed relief for long-term claimants, particularly those with severe or lifelong conditions. Jul 16, 2023 · With many thanks to Benefits And Work. Here are all 16 questions on the PIP AR2 form Linda Howard Money and Consumer Writer and Rory Poulter 00:15, 19 Sep 2025 Existing claimants awaiting a review will […] Sep 18, 2025 · Exclusive: The DWP is quietly changing how it handles PIP reviews for certain claimants. " Jul 16, 2019 · Hello Does anyone know if the new light touch review will still involve being assessed in some way, or is it just to check that all your details are the same? Thank you Mar 15, 2025 · Hi, I returned my PIP light touch forms in the first week of August. 45 each week during the current financial year - some £116. May 29, 2025 · The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has announced that the upcoming overhaul of Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will involve changes for individuals with 'light touch' awards, usually Hi just wanted to ask if anyone can help me. No one yet knows exactly what a light touch review will be. The Department for Work and Pensions has confirmed that reforms to Personal Independence Payment will also include changes for people with an ongoing 'light touch' award Apr 24, 2019 · Forum Members forums ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results Pip light touch awards I am writing this to seek the opinions both of the panel and other B&W members about the new review for AR1 for PIP reviews. My blue badge is coming up for renewal Jul 23, 2023 · New PIP AR2 Form (Light Touch) HillStreetBlues Posts: 6,272 Forumite 23 July 2023 at 6:13PM edited 23 July 2023 at 6:14PM Jul 16, 2019 · Hello Does anyone know if the new light touch review will still involve being assessed in some way, or is it just to check that all your details are the same? Thank you Apr 9, 2025 · The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has confirmed planned reforms to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will also include changes for people with an ongoing ‘light touch’ award, which is typically for 10 years. You can read about the questions that are asked on the review form in our Guide to PIP claims and reviews. Hopefully some of our members will be able to answer your question. Oct 12, 2023 · The DWP has now published a sample copy of the ‘PIP AR2’ form - for reference use only - as part of the PIP Toolkit on GOV. I had a 15 minute phone call if that and the woman was lovely which makes a change. Many thanks Sep 19, 2025 · The DWP has published a sample 'PIP AR2' form for claimants undergoing 'light touch' reviews, detailing 16 questions. I am worried sick Oct 14, 2025 · Hi JLP Your husband's claim will be looked at, but it's impossible to say when. Have you already got an ongoing award - so do you expect to receive the light touch review form? As I understand it, even with a light touch review they will still look at the whole award and yes, there is always a risk that it could be downgraded. BIS Light touch PIP assessments next month | Talking Really Channel | DWP NewsStarting next month, a light touch assessment for those who are long term disabled Mar 14, 2014 · Forum Home → Discussion → Disability benefits → Thread Copy of new PIP light touch review form that will be going live in August 11 July 2023, 03:36 pm Daphne Administrator Dec 15, 2023 · In "most cases" claimants coming to the end of their 10-year award for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will have a "light-touch" review as opposed to a full assessment, according to the Jul 17, 2019 · Hi everyone, I have been a state pensioner for almost 10 years. My first instinct when reading I am writing this to seek the opinions both of the panel and other B&W members about the new review for AR1 for PIP reviews. Thank you for watching video!Subscribe to our channel for more latest videos!CLICK HERE TO SUBSCRIBE: https://bit. Nov 15, 2025 · Hi, is there a telephone assessment after the return of a light-touch PIP review? Jan 29, 2024 · Pip light touch was created by Jane52 Does ten years pip award and it is inappropriate to set a term mean that review will be light touch at ten year Thankyou Jane Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. My first instinct when reading I returned my PIP light touch forms in the first week of August. I've received a letter extending my pip award due to covid i guess, but I have heard people are still having to complete light touch forms. I think the new light touch form is the AR 2 not AR 1 but nevertheless, I would always treat it as I would an initial claim with as much supporting evidence as possible. 80 every four-week pay period. Are your comments solely focused on working age claimants coming up for review? Or those with a shorter than “ongoing” award? I understood that some time ago, the DWP introduced a new “light touch” form AR2 for people who hold an ongoing award, and who are past I’ve had a letter saying that my pip has been extended for another year while they are doing a review on my award, has anybody else had this? Aug 14, 2023 · PIP claimants who received the light-touch award in 2013 are due to receive a letter in the coming months, with ongoing awards primarily aimed at those with the highest level of support. The form covers personal details, healthcare professionals, and changes to health, daily living, and mobility Start Prev 1 Next End 1 sally-jane Topic Author Offline LessMore Posts: 696 2 years 4 months ago #278123 by sally-jane PIP and light touch was created by sally-jane Good day to you all, Just looking at my PIP paperwork and filing the uprate letter to the huge bundle and noticed my review date etc. I would not expect them to change the conditions of your PIP award, but obviously, until you get the letter confirming May 7, 2025 · The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has confirmed planned reforms to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will also include changes for people with an ongoing ‘light touch’ award, which Mar 27, 2025 · They definitely know about 'light touch' reviews which I understand are unlikely to be changed as part of the proposed current welfare reforms. However, it’s a great way for people with a light-touch award Hello Does anyone know if the new light touch review will still involve being assessed in some way, or is it just to check that all your details are the same? Thank you Jul 29, 2024 · Hi CJW04 Light touch reviews are still a bit of a mystery, but the only people I have heard of having one - have been given a paper-based assessment and their award has continued as ongoing. 80 or £749. I read on here that dwp are making decisions based on the pip outcome or Jan 25, 2021 · can anyone advise me on this matter, when claiming pip benefit whats conditions apply for a light touch award and howlong does a light touch award last for? Aug 22, 2019 · Hi does pip assessment given light touch 10 years for pip. Is this a scheduled review or one in response to Aug 21, 2023 · All 16 questions on new PIP light-touch review form for people due letter from DWP Full breakdown of the new, shorter six-page PIP award review document being issued from this month. Will that also mean I shall not get a letter until after the date they say 9th Feb 2026, or would I Hello Does anyone know if the new light touch review will still involve being assessed in some way, or is it just to check that all your details are the same? Thank you Jul 24, 2023 · <p>Preparing for PIP light touch reviews “Light touch reviews” were the government response to the real difficulties caused when PIP replaced DLA, and lifetime awards ceased to be. Or is it if you have needed pip for over ten years, but that they I’ve recently returned my dad’s PIP light touch review forms. I am worried sick Hi all, Was just wondering if anyone has had a pip light touch review yet as pip is now 10 years old? Jul 19, 2023 · I would always treat any PIP Review as a first claim and sed them everything again anyway both historical and updated evidence so as to cover all bases. Key changes include streamlined regional contracts, holistic assessment approaches focusing on daily living impacts, and simplified reviews for those with stable Aug 15, 2024 · What does a light touch PIP review include? The DWP has published a sample form which gives claimants an idea of the types of questions asked during a light touch review and the specific Aug 1, 2025 · A colleague working in this area has stated that they don’t have a definitive timeline for when the light touch reviews will be available through an online submission. Some feedback on this site can on occasions leave you even more confused and can be misleading or inaccurate. The first lot of eligible people with ongoing awards are […]</p> Providing free information and advice since 1999 May 11, 2022 · What does the new form look like for light-touch review? Is it a lot less to fill in? Hi, Was awarded PIP in 2014 and it said it was to be looked at again some time after mid December 2024. Is it better to send up to date (last 2 years) medical evidence to support the no change answers or just send the form back without any up to date information ? I am it bit worried if I send quite a bit of evidence in that it could Jan 15, 2025 · Good Afternoon I have today read your latest newsletter about the new DWP PIP review form. Jan 27, 2024 · Hi is the PIP Light touch review for people who have a continuous award of pip for ten years. Will that also mean I shall not get a letter until after the date they say 9th Feb 2026, or would I Can you be awarded a “ light touch review “ for standard PIP care & mobility ? Being 66 years old, I was pleased to see that the DWP would just be giving a 10 year light touch to pensioners on PIP. May 7, 2025 · “These include improving the information we provide when we write to people about ongoing PIP award decisions, what support is offered between ‘light touch’ reviews and reviewing the length of time between ‘light touch’ reviews. I always ask my GP and/or any hospital professionals who treat me to copy Jul 19, 2023 · Hi,does this mean if you are over pension age (66) and you have a decline in one particular descriptor,(which would gain me a point and move me to enhanced May 11, 2022 · What does the new form look like for light-touch review? Is it a lot less to fill in? Sep 8, 2025 · A ‘light touch’ review is typically awarded to claimants who have: The DWP guidance states: “These claimants would not usually be expected to have a face-to-face assessment at review. The DWP have finally created a light touch review form for claimants who have reached pension age or who have an ongoing PIP award. My first instinct when reading Aug 13, 2024 · The DWP has provided an update on new 'light touch' PIP reviews - with more than 500 having been completed without the need for a health assessment I am writing this to seek the opinions both of the panel and other B&W members about the new review for AR1 for PIP reviews. I gather it is referenced AR1. The AR2 form is being issued from August 2023. This form is a much shorter alternative to the AR1 PIP award review form, which most claimants who have an end date to their award receive. Does anyone know how long after the date in mid December 2024 they are likely to contact me? Thanks The following user (s) said Thank You: pusscatsmum David Offline LessMore Posts: 785 3 months 1 week ago #294651 by David Replied by David on topic Jan 27, 2024 · Hi is the PIP Light touch review for people who have a continuous award of pip for ten years. Or is it if you have needed pip for over ten years, but that they Does ten years pip award and it is inappropriate to set a term mean that review will be light touch at ten year Thankyou Jane Jan 30, 2024 · Has anyone had a light touch reviewHi Anniepannie I have not seen much traffic on the forum in regards to light touch reviews. Oct 3, 2019 · Hi does anyone know how to request a PIP light touch review as my condition is degenerative and wont improve and I've had it since I was 15yrs old. 20 and £187. ” The planned welfare reforms are due to come into effect in November 2026 for new claimants. I am writing this to seek the opinions both of the panel and other B&W members about the new review for AR1 for PIP reviews. I have read the Benefits and work guide and plan on putting no change as there has been no significant change. Nov 16, 2023 · New PIP light touch review for people with 10 year award due letter from DWP Lifestyle Star 2. But what does a light touch review actually involve? For many, the phrase conjures dread rather than The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) introduced light touch PIP reviews as a supposed relief for long-term claimants, particularly those with severe or lifelong conditions. These reviews are for individuals with ongoing conditions who have received PIP for 10 years, potentially avoiding an assessment and only requiring a six-page form. I was reading online that it’s only Jun 18, 2025 · HELLO ,A JUST HAD A LETTER FROM DWP , REGARDING THE 10 YEAR LIGHT TOUCH REVIEW , MY LAST APPEAL 2020 WAS SET BY THE JUDGE AT A 5 YR REVIEW 2025 , (NOW) BUT THE LETER FROM PIP DWP SAY MY 10YR LIGHT TOUCH REVIEW IS BACKDATED T0 2020 , ??? INSREAD OF FROM NOW . Under these new rules, up to 700,000 people could be exempt from further assessments, marking a major shift in the way the Department for Work and Pensions administers disability benefits. Does ten years pip award and it is inappropriate to set a term mean that review will be light touch at ten year Thankyou Jane Apr 10, 2025 · People who receive the highest level of PIP and whose needs will not improve, receive a PIP award for a continuous period with a light touch review at the 10-year point. UK. Discover if you qualify for the new 'light touch' assessment process and what it means for your payments. Mean it be the same for esa. 7 million people across Great Britain are currently claiming Personal Independence Payment (PIP). Or is it if you have needed pip for over ten years, but that they Jan 25, 2024 · The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) recently introduced a new “light touch” review for some Personal Independence Payment (PIP) claimants. Mar 15, 2025 · Hi, I returned my PIP light touch forms in the first week of August. Jan 29, 2024 · Pip light touch was created by Jane52 Does ten years pip award and it is inappropriate to set a term mean that review will be light touch at ten year Thankyou Jane Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. May 29, 2025 · The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) are reforming the rules for Personal Independence Payment (PIP), including changes to "light touch" awards, which currently are reviewed every ten years Jan 30, 2024 · Has anyone had a light touch reviewHi Anniepannie I have not seen much traffic on the forum in regards to light touch reviews. DWP has put together a sample ‘PIP AR2’ form, which is available on GOV. Does that mean many of us over 65 could fall through the net ??? Mike. With the PIP having been introduced in 2013, millions of people who qualified for the benefit to last 10 years now have to submit a fresh claim if they want to carry on receiving the payment. I have not Oct 14, 2025 · Hi JLP Your husband's claim will be looked at, but it's impossible to say when. I am 65 years old and previously had a ten year award which runs out in June. All claimants are in Was awarded PIP in 2014 and it said it was to be looked at again some time after mid December 2024. my querie is How to complete this review? Do you send evidence? Aug 14, 2024 · PIP was introduced in 2013 and a “light-touch” review form – a much shorter alternative to the typical PIP award review – was released in August, in time for the first reviews of PIP Sep 18, 2025 · The DWP has published a sample copy of the ‘PIP AR2’ form – for reference use only – as part of the PIP Toolkit on GOV. My first instinct when reading Jan 17, 2024 · Hi I have had indefinite pip since 2015 when I reach 65 I had to take a telephone acessment to which I was told that I have qualified for the same award, but what I wish to know in your opinion will the light touch form be from when I was 65 or will they re access again which would be 2025 and then I will be 67. The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) is looking to reform the overall benefits system I have not seen much traffic on the forum in regards to light touch reviews. Jan 27, 2024 · Hi is the PIP Light touch review for people who have a continuous award of pip for ten years. Anyone had a light touch review yet? Thanks I am writing this to seek the opinions both of the panel and other B&W members about the new review for AR1 for PIP reviews. My first instinct when reading The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has recently confirmed that reviews for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) awards are currently taking an average of 38 weeks to complete. Aug 1, 2024 · I have a 10 year light touch pip award in 2017. Does Jun 9, 2025 · The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has confirmed planned reforms to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will also include changes for people with an ongoing ‘light touch’ award, which is typically in place for 10 years before the need for a review. Gary From August, the Department of Work and Pensions will be introducing a much shorter PIP renewal form, which will make it easier for those who are eligible for the payment to apply. People are currently being sent review forms. Many thanks colin Nov 7, 2025 · Hi, I have received form AR2 light touch review. Requires NVSE, JIP NVSE plugin and MCM. I read on here that dwp are making decisions based on the pip outcome or Gordon Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems Start Prev 1 Next End 1 Moderators: Gordon, Gary, BIS, Catherine, Wendy, Kelly, greekqueen, peter, Katherine, Super User, Chris, David Forum Members forums ESA, PIP and DLA Queries and Results Light touch Powered by Kunena Forum Jan 17, 2024 · Hi I have had indefinite pip since 2015 when I reach 65 I had to take a telephone acessment to which I was told that I have qualified for the same award, but what I wish to know in your opinion will the light touch form be from when I was 65 or will they re access again which would be 2025 and then I will be 67. Start Prev 1 Next End 1 Moderators: Gordon, Gary, BIS, Catherine, Wendy, Kelly, greekqueen, peter, Katherine, Super User, Chris, David Forum Members forums ESA, PIP and DLA Queries and Results Light touch Powered by Kunena Forum. I was moved from DLA (indefinite award high rate for both components) to PIP after f2f in June I am writing this to seek the opinions both of the panel and other B&W members about the new review for AR1 for PIP reviews. This form is a much shorter alternative to the AR1 PIP award review form,… Jun 18, 2022 · What a Light Touch Review actually consists of is still unclear as no one has to date had one, the first will not become due until next year (2023) when the first PIP claimants with an On-Going award will have spent ten years on the benefit. Has anybody got any feedback back or experiences of a light touch review please? The post discusses a person's experience with a PIP Mar 20, 2025 · I have ongoing PIP award for both components with them saying ‘we’ll contact you after Feb 2026 to make sure you are getting right level. But what does a Apr 25, 2023 · Hi all, Was just wondering if anyone has had a pip light touch review yet as pip is now 10 years old? May 2, 2019 · Forum Members forums ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results PIP - What does "Light Touch" actually mean Jan 13, 2021 · Hi phrank It is a bit of a grey area, my understanding of the 'light touch review' is that you have to be of State Pension age when your assessment is made and it would depend on your condition. From end of April 2019 , all new pip awards for over 65,s will have light touch over 10 year period, with existing over 65,s introduced over coming months. Or is it if you have needed pip for over ten years, but that they Mar 21, 2025 · They already have light touch reviews if you have PIP for an ongoing period, every 10 months. Minister for Social Security and Hi does anyone know how to request a PIP light touch review as my condition is degenerative and wont improve and I've had it since I was 15yrs old. Forum Members forums ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results The Department for Work and Pensions has implemented major reforms to PIP assessments and reviews in 2023, introducing "light touch" reviews for long-term claimants and digital innovations like online PIP2 forms and video assessments. Taking place every 10 years, a light touch review should do what it says on the tin. Does Jul 14, 2023 · The DWP have finally created a light touch review form for claimants who have reached pension age or who have an ongoing PIP award. PIP is designed to help working age adults living with an illness, disability or mental health condition. Many thanks Apr 10, 2025 · The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has confirmed that planned reforms to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will also include changes for people with an ongoing 'light touch' award Does ten years pip award and it is inappropriate to set a term mean that review will be light touch at ten year Thankyou Jane - Page 2 Mar 20, 2025 · Hi there, My PIP award is standard rate care for ongoing period and the light touch review will be due soon but the problem is I not meet the new rules, so Mar 18, 2023 · Good day to you all, Just looking at my PIP paperwork and filing the uprate letter to the huge bundle and noticed my review date etc. According to new DWP data, between May and the end of July, 150,000 award reviews were completed, with priority being given to new claims to ensure swift support. The Government has issued an update on planned changes for PIP claimants on ‘light touch’ awards. ” PIP and ADP are worth between £29. Many thanks colin Hello Does anyone know if the new light touch review will still involve being assessed in some way, or is it just to check that all your details are the same? Thank you Start Prev 1 Next End 1 Moderators: Gordon, latetrain, BIS, Catherine12345, Chris, David, Keely Forum Members forums ESA, PIP, UC and DLA Queries and Results Light touch Powered by Kunena Forum The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has recently confirmed that reviews for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) awards are currently taking an average of 38 weeks to complete. Feb 12, 2021 · I've received a letter extending my pip award due to covid i guess, but I have heard people are still having to complete light touch forms. Jul 24, 2023 · Margole We haven't seen many ADP reassessments reported on the forum so information is limited but I would expect it to be similar to the original claim but probably based on an equivalent to the PIP AR1 form, not the AR2 intended for PIP Light Touch reviews. I was moved from DLA (indefinite award high rate for both components) to PIP after f2f in June Aug 22, 2019 · Hi does pip assessment given light touch 10 years for pip. I presume that means it is a 'light touch review' , whatever that may entail. Does Can you be awarded a “ light touch review “ for standard PIP care & mobility ? Jun 3, 2019 · Hi All, Just read the DRUK report regarding new rules for over 65,s pip assessments. Please help. Jul 17, 2019 · I just read the newsletter about the light touch reviews for pensioners and wondered if its for all claimants on pension. However, many of those Jan 15, 2025 · Is this light touch form still in existence, or are all reviews being covered by this new AR1 form - which is 25 pages long? Grateful for this clarification please. ??? Start Prev 1 Next End 1 pusscatsmum Topic Author Offline LessMore Posts: 691 1 year 3 months ago #278123 by pusscatsmum PIP and light touch was created by pusscatsmum Good day to you all, Just looking at my PIP paperwork and filing the uprate letter to the huge bundle and noticed my review date etc. The idea is that the DWP just want confirmation that your condition hasn't improved. Apr 1, 2025 · These include improving the information we provide when we write to people about ongoing PIP award decisions, what support is offered to people receiving ongoing awards between 'light touch' reviews and reviewing the length of time between 'light touch' reviews. My first instinct when reading Jul 17, 2019 · PIP light touch reviews higher levels only was created by Daff I just read the newsletter about the light touch reviews for pensioners and wondered if its for all claimants on pension. It says , 1 its and ongoing award and 2 we will contact you after 9th February 2026. The Nov 15, 2025 · The UK is set to undergo one of the most significant reforms to disability benefits in over a decade, with changes to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) confirmed for 2025. 45K subscribers Subscribe Hi is the PIP Light touch review for people who have a continuous award of pip for ten years. Or is it if you have needed pip for over ten years, but that they Does ten years pip award and it is inappropriate to set a term mean that review will be light touch at ten year Thankyou Jane - Page 2 Jul 1, 2025 · I am looking for an idea of how many light touch reviews are successful following a review? The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has released new figures revealing that over 3. If a decision is made before you are of State Pension age then unfortunately you will be reassessed again within 2-5 years of that decision. Gary Mar 20, 2025 · Hi there, My PIP award is standard rate care for ongoing period and the light touch review will be due soon but the problem is I not meet the new rules, so Does ten years pip award and it is inappropriate to set a term mean that review will be light touch at ten year Thankyou Jane Feb 12, 2021 · Hi NikiB I think you are confusing the term light touch forms which is not a term that is used with 'light touch reviews' which are not going to start until 2023. Minister for Social Security and Disability Sir Stephen Timms said that the Oct 14, 2025 · Hi JLP Your husband's claim will be looked at, but it's impossible to say when. wcxr enzq lobknt laazm jny jcku qablw lwfvo bvgma kbmgme ltx tbecu onvl tjiogt faedgk